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John Duncan's avatar

Thoughtful, challenging, fun as always. But I think a bit too bombastic on the "why didn't you adjust away from China sooner, you are just dumb and wrong" part. And this is where the US consumer and the US consumer environment holds some responsibility for the current situation. The reason the theoretical US business outsourced to China and the reason very few diversified away from low cost countries in the past 10 years might be that US consumers demand low prices (as capitalism kind of fundamentally says they will). So if you as a business say "no I believe in US industry so I will onshore more of my work and customers will pay more because they share my belief in US industrial needs" you would have been (mostly) wrong. You would (mostly) have gone out of business. That would not have been clever. As a business owner the challenge for me is not just what I think is right, but what my competitors will do and how I can compete successfully with them and if I can do something cheaper to the same standards as I can get in the US elsewhere I will. If anyone in my industry is using China or other low cost markets and I am competing with them I either have to sell something substantially better or different than them so that my customers will pay more. In a service business that's viable. If I make fridges or cars or widgets, it's just not realistic a lot of the time for a lot of suppliers. Could tariffs have a role in shifting that equation? Yes. You are not getting an argument from me on that as a viable path. But throwing up an overnight trade blockade (via tariffs) and thinking that anyone who didn't see that coming is stupid ignores the reality of running a business. If we were serious about onshoring industrial production then a more coherent approach to what industries, what production, what tariffs, what countries would give you a better chance of long-term success. Creative uncertainty is no more likely to have a positive outcome than creative destruction. In fact they feel very much like the same "break stuff and hope it all works out in the end" mentality that you dislike from your economist colleagues.

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Karl's avatar

I belly laughed at this one. Oren is getting nervous, knowing that his legacy is tightly tethered to the whims of the orange man baby. He’s sunk to blaming the businesses for the carnage of DonOrenomics:). Life as a think tank elite-never sullied by real world uncertainties, always with a ready excuse for why the plan blew up. And sadly, never a word as Don decimates the rule of law, obliterates our long time alliances, hollows out our scientific golden goose, and drives away the smartest students, all so central to a successful economy. Weren’t all the indicators so much more positive just a few short months ago? It’s becoming clear that Oren shares Don’s world view of returning to the 50’s. Maybe they will discuss the dangers of vaccines when Don gives him a ride on his groovin new plane!

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