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Howard Skillington's avatar

Congratulations. As a long-time Liberal who has watched with dismay as the Democratic Party has committed collective suicide, I find in American Compass a repository of clear thinking and a source of genuine hope for the future.

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Howard Skillington's avatar

Nope. Are you making yours available?

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Ken Zapinski's avatar

I remember the time well. We had just founded a new organization focused on rebuilding manufacturing, energy, and construction jobs in the Pittsburgh region, and I spent much of my beach week in Summer 2020 reading all the new American Compass material. Congratulations. I think AC is a necessary and valuable contributor to the civic debate.

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Karl's avatar
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I chuckle when I read Oren’s continuing effort to position AC as fighting “establishment conservatism” in a never-ending fundraising ploy. Any thinking observer knows that the “establishment” of which he speaks died well over a decade ago. MAGA is the establishment, and will remain so for the foreseeable future. All pre-Don pols have no home in the party, they’ve been ex-communicated unless they’re willing to self-geld like JD and Little Marco. A current example is Pence, who last night received the JFK Profile in Courage award for defending the constitution. Don loves most the poor souls who are willing to recant their original, and truthful, views of him. Oren has likewise bet his identity and legacy on Don. It’s a risky bet, as history shows Don’s willingness to turn on virtually all former staff and friends. Ask Mike Pence... Let’s all hope that DonOrenomics pays the dividends Oren promises.

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Howard Skillington's avatar

Any Conservative who thinks President Trump embodies a solid political future is terminally short-sighted. Trump is a singular phenomenon who happened to provide the disruption the Uniparty has long needed. If a viable future is to be constructed beyond the next four (more likely, two) years, it must lie in forward thinking for which American Compass is currently the best source.

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Karl's avatar

I would argue that any conservative who thinks that Don is a one-off is woefully naive. Have we learned nothing over the last 10 years? Watch or attend one of Don’s rallies. Look who dominates local and state R party committees. Look at how congressional campaigns are run and who wins them. Look at who is elected to state legislatures. Don is there because voters knowingly chose him, even after they saw his incompetence, corruption, and violence in Don 1.0. Republican voters have explicitly shown that they want what Don is selling. After all, the one thing he’s been honest about are the lunatic ideas he says he’ll implement. MAGA will control the party until they are defeated decisively and repeatedly. A question. If Pence and JD both run in 2028, which one will be hated by the base? Hint: the one they wanted to hang…

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Howard Skillington's avatar

Well, one of is certainly woefully naive. The Democrats have prevented any younger candidates who actually have anything to offer from ascending through their party ranks. They then showed their contempt for the nation by giving us a "President" who was literally mentally incompetent, preventing us from even being able to know which party imbeciles were making the disastrous decisions. Good luck getting those decisive and repeated victories in the foreseeable future. It's more likely that your party will cease to exist. In the meantime, a rejuvenated Republican Party is dismantling the mess your guys made of things, and none too soon.

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Karl's avatar

I’m not a Democrat, I was a lifelong Republican until Don turned the party into a cult. Now I’d vote for a canned ham over Don. I share the views of JD and Little Marco, at least their original views of Don when they told the truth, before they self-gelded. I also share the views of his highest level appointees from Don 1.0, they were explicit in their warnings of his authoritarian tendencies. I share many of your criticisms of D’s, I also recognize it as a whataboutism tactic. It’s a tactic the leaders of my former party use regularly to justify their support for a person they know is patently unfit. “Well yeah he incited an armed insurrection, pardoned violent felons who beat cops with confederate flagpoles, lies about the election, etc, but doggone it Joepa is a socialist!.” It’s easier than directly justifying Don’s actions. Finally, I also agree Joepa never should have run, that he and his staff lied to the country, and his high command should have spoken out like Don’s did. But I gotta ask, have you actually attended a Don rally? Or listened to an entire speech he made at one? I challenge you to do so, then revisit which of those two aging souls is more lucid. Any honest read of Don’s incoherent ramblings has to make ya wonder, doesn’t it? What will he be like at 81?

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Brent's avatar

Oren, Oren, Oren....

Jon Stewart gave you too much credibility. Though you did do a good job of hiding how fucking crazy you are in the interview. New Conservatism is nothing more than a mask to become nationalistic fuckwads in another decade or two. Always gross, and always hypocritical.

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K.G.'s avatar

Some of these comments are horrendous...dishonest...liberal psychobabbel...that's ok though--they are just flushing themselves down the toilet of insults, sarcasm & no ideas...the American people see this clearly.

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Karl's avatar

Agree. I have no idea why JD called Don: cultural heroin, a moral disaster, Americas Hitler, reprehensible, just another opioid, a total fraud. Or why he tweeted: "Fellow Christians, everyone is watching us when we apologize for this man. Lord help us". Do you?

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Jen Baron's avatar

JD Sees exactly who Trump is. He is a person with no plan and no clue. How do you “bring manufacturing back” when there is NO infrastructure in place to do it? It’s laughable. I have a few friends that have shops that sell items to pet owners in small towns. 100% of their dog toys and other items, etc come from China!!! It won’t be long before they are out of business. They bought lower cost items and resold them, made a good enough living, and now they will be screwed.

Housing? We get 50% of our Lumber from Canada? WTF? Are we going to grow more trees overnight?

Without giving business owners AND potential manufacturers a road map these United States Business owners are going to be circling the bowl. Is that the goal?

How do people not see this? This is just the tip of the Iceberg that the United States is heading for. Using China was GREAT for us. How does any of this represent “Conservatism”? The hunger? The pain? Please someone, anyone enlighten me!

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David P. Lyons's avatar

Ordered.

And, while MAGA may be the new establishment, there seems to be some confusion there about the need for an industrial policy and the rejection of financialization. The old establishment might be dead, but its zombie still walks.

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Karl's avatar

Yes, Don is indeed confused. Hence his, and MAGA's, opposition to the chips act. As to financialization, we now have crypto! Make sure to plop down some cash for Don's meme coin, you can join fellow elites, tech-bros, MAGA drones, and foreign governments in shoveling money into Don's pocket:)

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Jen Baron's avatar

Right? Not one advocate for “Conservatism” will tell me how any of this insanity is supposed to “work”. No one.

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